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No Boxes: Just Verses
No Boxes: Just Verses is where inspiring leaders reveal the songs and stories that shaped their journey. Join host Shannon Nash, a global C-suite leader, attorney, and CPA, as she goes beyond titles and trophies to explore the moments that truly defined today's top executives, entrepreneurs, and artists.
Each episode is a deep dive into a guest's personal "Leadership Playlist," uncovering the pivotal lessons and life-changing moments tied to the music that moved them. From career breakthroughs to personal reinvention, we explore the authentic, unboxed stories behind extraordinary success.
This isn't your typical leadership podcast. It's a rich blend of leadership development, personal storytelling, and musical discovery. Whether you're an aspiring leader, a seasoned executive, or simply a music lover, you'll find powerful insights and a vibrant community here.
Come for the stories, stay for the playlist. Subscribe now and join us as we redefine leadership, one verse at a time.
No Boxes: Just Verses
Lisa DeCarlo & Lisa Shalett on Wall Street Careers, Wells Fargo, Goldman Sachs, Big Pivots, Finding Purpose, and Co-Founding Extraordinary Women on Boards
Are you an executive struggling with the isolation of high-level leadership? Have you faced a personal crisis that forced you to re-evaluate your entire career path? In this powerful Authentic and Strategic episode of No Boxes: Just Verses, we go beyond the bios, beyond the titles with the two Lisas—Lisa DeCarlo and Lisa Shallet—co-founders of Extraordinary Women on Boards (EWOB). They share deeply personal stories: Lisa D’s health scare that forced vulnerability and Lisa S’s decision to retire from Goldman Sachs to prioritize time. Learn their unconventional strategies for career entry, board service, and building the essential peer community needed to lead.
Lisa DeCarlo is the co-founder of Extraordinary Women on Boards (EWOB), co-creator of The Decade Game®, and founder of Just Go. A board director, advisor, and catalyst for change, she is passionate about helping leaders and organizations innovate, get unstuck, and dream bigger—guided by her core belief that nothing happens without movement.
Lisa Shalett is the co-founder of Extraordinary Women on Boards, a powerhouse network of 1,000+ trailblazing women corporate board directors dedicated to advancing board excellence and staying cutting edge. A former Goldman Sachs Partner, she now serves as an independent board director, corporate advisor, and entrepreneur.
Key Takeaways:
- Lisa D shares how she accidentally landed a temp job on a trading floor and used a two-year commitment to learn every business unit (sales, trading, investment banking) —a non-traditional path that led to six job offers.
- Lisa D’s severe health crisis forced her to realize she wasn't hiding her decline and that her ability to be open about life experiences later "opened up so many doors" in bigger leadership roles.
- Lisa S reveals why her father's sudden death caused her to retire from Goldman Sachs six months later. She suddenly saw a clock ticking backwards and realized her purpose was to be home for dinner.
- EWOB was built from the need for a community where women could "take the armor off". They discovered the power of a peer group that shares emerging best practices and sees you, not just your title.
- Lisa S stresses that beyond IQ and EQ, executives must develop OQ —understanding how things work informally within an organization —to navigate their career path and break the unwritten rules of the game.
The Lisas’ journey is proof that your most vulnerable moments can provide the deepest clarity on your life's purpose and unlock your Unstoppable potential.
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Theme Song: Pedal to the Medal by Martin Luther (Spotify | Apple Music)